1985 propaganda piece
Rating: 10/20
Plot: A powerful Soviet boxer named Drago punches Rocky's friend Apollo Creed to death. Rocky travels to the Soviet Union, a place that once existed, to train and fight the monster.
Monster. Seriously, was I supposed to be rooting against Drago in this movie, and more importantly, does the fact that I really wasn't put me on some kind of Joseph McCarthy list? As pro-America and pro-democracy as this movie is (and believe me, it's as proud to be an American as a guy wearing red, white, and blue boxers at a monster truck rally), there are some mixed messages throughout this. We start with exploding boxing gloves, not the traditional title crawl from the right, and automatically, this does not bode well. Then, you get to Paulie's birthday party where the birthday boy gets a robot. Only in America, right? This was actually the first "Rocky" movie I ever saw, and I remember being confused and bored by all this birthday and robot shit. I probably wondered, just like I did when I watched it this time, if Paulie and the robot were going to have an intimate sex scene. Apollo seemed to think so. The robot is probably a good symbol for what is wrong with America in this movie, but I'm too tired to get my thoughts together on that. I do know that America just seems so cocky and cheap and loud. You get all these flashy shots of a Camaro at the beginning of one of about five thousand montages. Then, you get flamboyant Apollo's entrance before his last tragic match, and you can just tell that James Brown confuses the heck out of Drago. So you get these clashing ideals in the ring--capitalism vs. communism, old (Apollo and his training techniques) vs. new (Drago and all those machines the commies got), a cocky guy who is all style vs. a guy who just wants to freakin' box, pomposity vs. stoicism. And by the way, I prefer Drago's entrance music more than anybody else's in any of these movies. I like movie music that I can play anyway, but that synthesizer/hissing breath thing is just cool. Drago trains really hard, just as hard as Rocky or Apollo, so I'm not sure what the message is supposed to be. And Rocky is chopping down trees for no good reason, so you know the environmentalists (probably, commies anyway) are going to be rooting against him. And then, look at the fight itself. First, you know who's going to win because these movies have gotten predictable. But look at how Rocky wins. He gets lucky during the fight, and he cheats by hitting after the bell, but they try to keep Drago as the bad guy by having him retaliate. I wonder if Rocky had something stuffed in his glove to cut Drago actually. I wouldn't put it past him! There's also a moment in round two where Rocky gets knocked down but doesn't get a count. What the heck? I just don't see how Drago is the villain in all this (aside from a half-second shot of him being injected with something which suggested he's not all-natural), but his hometown crowd does as they start rooting for Rocky at the end which has to be the dumbest thing about any of these Rocky movies. Poor Drago was probably shot like a wounded racehorse after the fight, and after all that hard work, I just felt sorry for the guy. I also feel sorry for anybody with an aversion to movie montages since Rocky IV has to break the record for most in one movie. There are at least seven, and counting the opening sequence which, just like the other sequels, is the end sequence of the previous movie, this has about forty minutes of footage that we've already seen before. It's like they filmed Rocky IV, realized they only had about fifty minutes of movie, and said, "Yeah, we can just pad the rest of this with some of the best moments from the other three movies." This movie, despite being an offensive chunk of propagandist cheese, gets a 10/20 only because you get a formidable foe with Drago (I like Dolph more than Mr. T. and the Hulkster combined actually) and because even though Mickey is dead (he shows up in those montages though), that ring announcer's mustache is alive and well. But overall, this movie should be as embarrassing to America as slavery and the treatment of the Native Americans.
As mentioned, I watched this Rocky before the others. More than likely, this one turned me against the series and kept me from giving the first movie a chance until I was in my late-20s.
One more thing--2,150 pounds per square inch, the most force of one of Drago's punches, I believe. Wouldn't that be enough to completely destroy Rocky's skull or literally tear his head from his neck? That would have been a nice end to the story actually--Adrian catching her husband's head in her lap and Rocky looking up at her and saying, "Yo, Adrian. I guess this is it for old Rocky, huh?" Or just "Adrian! Adrian!" with a cut to Paulie having his way with his robot or Rocky's son, who acts just as well as his dad, crying. That's an even better end to the Balboa story than the one I imagined for Rocky II where a truck hits the boxer and kills him in front of thousands of children.
Stallone made some dreadfully bad, cartoon type movies right around this period. It all really started with his directing Staying Alive in 1983 (One of my favorite really BAD movies of all time.) In a row, here are the movies he was in.
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Rambo II
Rocky IV
Cobra (Another hilariously BAD movie)
Over the Top (Yet another one)
Rambo III
Lock Up
Tango and Cash
Six years of some of the worst movies ever put on film, without a single redeeming one in there. Stallone REALLY gets into the pushing of overwhelming patriotism in his films that would have made Joseph Goebbels proud.
I was always struck, in the same way you were, how little I disliked Drago. There is one quick scene of him getting injected with something, but for all we know it could be vitamins, or penicillin or insulin. Otherwise we see him training endlessly, without even the support of the jerks who are supposed to be helping him. Rocky gets the support of his family, his friends, Apollos family and friends, the entire United States PLUS eventually the Soviet Union. He is a villain only because Creed died in the ring against him, but that seemed to have been Creeds fault as much as anyone. (Plus the idiots that put on the exhibition who dont seem to know what an exhibition is)
You dont mention the beginning of the epic Sylvester Stallone and Brigitte Nielson coupling that would last two glorious years. This was Nielsons second movie, immediately after the very forgettable Red Sonja. Her next film after this was Cobra, so you can make a very good case that Nielsson had the three worst movies to start a career of any actress in history.
Anyway, Rocky IV sucks. It sucks in many varied ways. The fact that it was made none years after the original Rocky, is stunning, since the character is so completely different by this time.
I gave it an eight or something like that before, and that still works.
I think you just dared me to watch all of those movies!
ReplyDeleteI don't think I've seen 'Cobra' but I saw 'Over the Top' in the theater for whatever reason.
And yeah, Rocky being such a different character by this movie is bothersome. If he was different in the right way (like completely braindead, barely able to communicate, selling grills), it would make sense. His character by 'Rocky IV' is as believable as the climactic boxing scenes in these movies though.
You could not handle that much bad moviemaking. Over the Top might be the worst one among them, and you have survived that,so I could be underestimating you.
ReplyDeleteCobra is REALLY bad. Its quite a bit of fun, and it has more meaningless deaths in it than any movie I have ever seen, but its also about as dumb as a film can be. If you are going to hit the Stallone bad movie trail, I would start there.
I remember seeing "Cobra" in the theatre with Barry and some other friends. A body count was started (by Barry) and it got up to about 35 (unanswered question posed by "Cobra": if you're chasing a pickup truck while on a motorcycle, and there is a man with a machine gun in the bed of the truck shooting at you and several bad-guy friends, how many motorcycle riders have to get shot before you decide that continuing the chase might not be a good idea?).
ReplyDeleteBy the way, "True Lies" had around 100 filmed deaths, and no one batted an eyelash; in case you're looking for any "our society has gone to hell", ammo.
Speaking of unanswered movie questions...If you are an 80's Russian citizen (who values his and his family's life) attending an event with the Politboro, and half the nations' KGB, would there be any chance you would cheer for some dirty-fighting American (who makes stupid, cheesy post-fight speeches, no less?).
I really liked what both of you wrote, and I hated this movie...except for one training-in-the-snow montage. Maybe I should go back and punish "Rocky III", because Stallone was clearly getting off his leash on that movie, and he got away with it. Goebbels is apt, because I'm not sure if the intent behind the mindless, manipulative slop Stallone was making for many years is scarier, or is it the fact that he was so successful with audiences. It's really creepy. A 7.
2150 PSI? mythbusters have covered this. consult them
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ReplyDeleteIt doesn't count unless they actually used Stallone's head.
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